A couple weeks ago I wrote a post that listed my beliefs as a “pragmatic progressive” educator. Before I wrote that post, I made a plan to write at least two more on the same subject; a thousand word blog post is obviously not sufficient to explain a belief system that many other educators have spent thousands of pages doing, and from comments to the post it is clear that there were several interpretations of my list.
In a slight change of plan, I will delay the two other posts on this subject in favor of responding to some of the thoughtful comments on the original post. A big part of my decision to blog in the first place was to have a broader dialogue (see my first post ). So, let’s dialogue.
In a post April 7th, Alan Gottlieb, the publisher of this site, wrote about a visit to a school in New Orleans where the “…feel of the school is strikingly similar to West Denver Prep or KIPP; what Marc Waxman would call a paternalistic or “no excuses” model charter school that gets impressive results by obsessing over data and paying almost fanatical attention to the details of instruction and school culture.”
I don’t think Alan intended it, but I think many readers might have interpreted this comment to mean that as a progressive educator I would find fault with obsession over data and fanatical attention to instruction and school culture. While, in fact, as a “pragmatic progressive” I believe data is extremely important and I would put my schools’ “fanatical attention to the details of instruction and school culture” up against any of the no excuses schools.
It’s just what I think of as data, what I believe instruction should look like, and what I feel school culture should be like are probably pretty different. But, it’s extremely important to know that the focus and intentionality of a pragmatic progressive is no less rigorous than that of others.
Jeff Buck commented “I want to push back a bit on your second to last bullet. I believe that independence is important in many contexts but I believe productive interdependence is more important. We’re all in this together and we’ll get through it together. Students who have developed a healthy interdependence will work together to understand a task, bring diverse prior knowledge to bear, consider possible alternative approaches, examine mistakes and maybe even hit a dead end together (and they know how they got there which helps find a way back). It is my strong belief that the dispositions and skills of productive interdependence belong at the top of the list of “21st Century Skills.””
As usual Jeff writes with clarity and insight. I want to officially retract the bullet from my last post that stated “Children should develop independence. They do this by being giving opportunities to think and act for themselves – to make mistakes and learn from them.” I would like to revise it to: “Children should develop independence and interdependence. They do this by being giving opportunities to think and act for themselves – to make mistakes and learn from them, as well as meaningful opportunities to work together with others.” Thanks Jeff.
Linda Campbell brought up an interesting point about false dichotomies when she wrote “I am curious why you use the word “but” when I think “and” says it better? “Schools must be serious, but fun”….I think they should be serious AND fun. Our culture suggests that if things are one thing they cannot be something else. I find this type of thinking to be simplistic. The reason I favor progressive education is because it values the whole child….her basic skills AND her creativity; her left brain AND her right brain; her social emotional skills AND her academic skills; what she is interested in AND what society thinks she should be interested in.”
Linda – I am officially changing the “but” to “and” in my statement: “Schools must be serious, and fun.”
Linda’s comment reminded me of statement made by a Teach For America vice president during a recent visit to Denver. When talking about responsibility of schools, he said something about how he would rather have schools that produce jerks that can go to college than nice kids who can’t. This is another in the long line of false choices that Linda surfaces. A pragmatic progressive would not create this dichotomy or the others above, but instead find ways to ensure students can go to college and be “nice.” Pragmatic progressives believe in “AND.”
Audra Philippon, the founder of AXL Charter School wrote: “I’d like to highlight that this emerging definition of pragmatic progressive education does not specify a particular demographic group. All students, especially those at high-risk economically or linguistically, can benefit from such an education! “
As I mentioned above, I originally planned on two more posts on this subject. The next will focus on what progressive education is important, especially in our current time, and I will attempt to expand on Audra’s comment.
David Hazen wrote: “Bravo! Whether a Big Picture Company school or a KIPP school, they both meet this definition. Thanks!”
I don’t know much about Big Picture Company schools, but I worked at a KIPP school for three years and have spent time in several schools that have been described as similar to KIPP, and I don’t think they meet the full definition I wrote about in my post. My third post will detail exactly what a pragmatic progressive classroom that fits my definition actually looks like in reality. I will draw upon my experience observing classrooms at the charter school that my wife founded called SOAR@GVR – a school serving a majority of low income students of color in Far Northeast Denver with strong midyear results (both standardized and qualitative).
I hope that the third post will begin to address the concern Van Schoales raised by commenting “There’s little talk of specific practices or how we might know what a good school’s results would be. It’s ironic but many progressives today seem to be more focused on an ideology than on practical methods for supporting student learning at all levels.”
I look forward to more dialogue on the similarities and differences between pragmatic progressive schools and others.
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